Why Fleets Are NOT Defense
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Why Fleets Are NOT Defense
I often tell newer players that fleets are not planetary protection. If anything, they encourage attack. I just completed an attack that was a perfect demonstration of how a fleet invites problems.
I found a target who, compared to the fleet I had on hand, had a fair amount of defense and a reasonably good size fleet. After running the sims, I saw that I could not defeat him but that I could attack him with with relatively small damage.
In the attack I lost one battelship and got no loot as the battle was a draw. The battelship costs 45K metal and 15K crystal. But I created and collected a debris field of 89K metal and 88K crystal. Big win.
And I never touched the resources on the planet. I would have gone back for them in a second attack but, unfortunately, I knocked him back into noob status and I can't attack him.
The point I want to make is that I attacked him only because he had such a large fleet sitting on his planet. Without the fleet, I would have needed to attack him multiple times before I could defeat him and get his resources.
This is why I tell people not to think of ships orbiting your planet not as protection, but as flying resources to be pillaged..
-E1
I found a target who, compared to the fleet I had on hand, had a fair amount of defense and a reasonably good size fleet. After running the sims, I saw that I could not defeat him but that I could attack him with with relatively small damage.
In the attack I lost one battelship and got no loot as the battle was a draw. The battelship costs 45K metal and 15K crystal. But I created and collected a debris field of 89K metal and 88K crystal. Big win.
And I never touched the resources on the planet. I would have gone back for them in a second attack but, unfortunately, I knocked him back into noob status and I can't attack him.
The point I want to make is that I attacked him only because he had such a large fleet sitting on his planet. Without the fleet, I would have needed to attack him multiple times before I could defeat him and get his resources.
This is why I tell people not to think of ships orbiting your planet not as protection, but as flying resources to be pillaged..
-E1
on (07.04.2010 05:23:33) the following fleets met in battle:::
Emandab1 -vs- essex76
Attacker: Emandab1
Weapons: 100% Shields: 100% Armour: 100%
Battleship............ 10
Bomb............. 2
Destr............. 4
Battlecr............. 33
-= V S =-
Defender: essex76
Weapons: 70% Shields: 70% Armour: 70%
S.Cargo............ 1
H.Cargo............ 5
L.Fighter............ 14
H.Fighter............ 3
Cruiser............ 9
............ 1
............ 5
Recy............ 68
Esp.Probe............ 39
Sol sat............ 129
R.Luncher............ 100
L.Laser............ 11
T.Laser............ 9
Ion. K............. 1
S.Dome............ 1
L.Dome............ 0
- after battle -
Attacker: Emandab1
Battleship............ 9 . . . . . .(lost: 1)
Bomb............. 2 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
Destr............. 4 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
Battlecr............. 33 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
Defender: essex76
S.Cargo............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 1)
H.Cargo............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 5)
L.Fighter............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 13)
H.Fighter............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 2)
Cruiser............ 3 . . . . . .(lost: 6)
............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 1)
............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 5)
Recy............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 67)
Esp.Probe............ 7 . . . . . .(lost: 32)
Sol sat............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 128)
R.Luncher............ 6 . . . . . .(lost: 94)
L.Laser............ 15 . . . . . .(lost: -4)
T.Laser............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 9)
Ion. K............. 1 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
S.Dome............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
L.Dome............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: -1)
The battle ended in a draw, both fleets are downloaded to their home planet.
The attacker lost a total of 60.000 units.
The defender lost a total of 1.097.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 89.400 metal and 87.300 crystal.
The chance for a moon to be created is 1 %
-= Result =-
(Assuming the attacker got the debris..)
Attacker gain (-lost units): 116.700
The attacker lost a total of 60.000
The defender lost a total of 1.097.000
Total Damage: 1.157.000
-= Harvest report =-
Your 9 recycler(s) have a total cargo capacity of 180.000
At the target 89.400 metal and 87.600 krystal are floating in space.
You have harvested 89.400 metal and 87.600 crystal
Advanced bilance
Attacker lost.............gain..........difference
Met: 45.000.............89.400..............44.400
Cry: 15.000.............87.300..............72.300
Deu: 0.......................0...................0
--------------------------------------------------
Summary: ..................................116.700
Defender lost.............gain..........difference
Met: 1.115.000...............0..........-1.115.000
Cry: 803.000.................0............-803.000
Deu: 210.000.................0............-210.000
--------------------------------------------------
Summary: ...............................-2.128.000
Converted by The OGame combat report convertor
Emandab1 -vs- essex76
Attacker: Emandab1
Weapons: 100% Shields: 100% Armour: 100%
Battleship............ 10
Bomb............. 2
Destr............. 4
Battlecr............. 33
-= V S =-
Defender: essex76
Weapons: 70% Shields: 70% Armour: 70%
S.Cargo............ 1
H.Cargo............ 5
L.Fighter............ 14
H.Fighter............ 3
Cruiser............ 9
............ 1
............ 5
Recy............ 68
Esp.Probe............ 39
Sol sat............ 129
R.Luncher............ 100
L.Laser............ 11
T.Laser............ 9
Ion. K............. 1
S.Dome............ 1
L.Dome............ 0
- after battle -
Attacker: Emandab1
Battleship............ 9 . . . . . .(lost: 1)
Bomb............. 2 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
Destr............. 4 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
Battlecr............. 33 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
Defender: essex76
S.Cargo............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 1)
H.Cargo............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 5)
L.Fighter............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 13)
H.Fighter............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 2)
Cruiser............ 3 . . . . . .(lost: 6)
............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 1)
............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 5)
Recy............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 67)
Esp.Probe............ 7 . . . . . .(lost: 32)
Sol sat............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 128)
R.Luncher............ 6 . . . . . .(lost: 94)
L.Laser............ 15 . . . . . .(lost: -4)
T.Laser............ 0 . . . . . .(lost: 9)
Ion. K............. 1 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
S.Dome............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: 0)
L.Dome............ 1 . . . . . .(lost: -1)
The battle ended in a draw, both fleets are downloaded to their home planet.
The attacker lost a total of 60.000 units.
The defender lost a total of 1.097.000 units.
At these space coordinates now float 89.400 metal and 87.300 crystal.
The chance for a moon to be created is 1 %
-= Result =-
(Assuming the attacker got the debris..)
Attacker gain (-lost units): 116.700
The attacker lost a total of 60.000
The defender lost a total of 1.097.000
Total Damage: 1.157.000
-= Harvest report =-
Your 9 recycler(s) have a total cargo capacity of 180.000
At the target 89.400 metal and 87.600 krystal are floating in space.
You have harvested 89.400 metal and 87.600 crystal
Advanced bilance
Attacker lost.............gain..........difference
Met: 45.000.............89.400..............44.400
Cry: 15.000.............87.300..............72.300
Deu: 0.......................0...................0
--------------------------------------------------
Summary: ..................................116.700
Defender lost.............gain..........difference
Met: 1.115.000...............0..........-1.115.000
Cry: 803.000.................0............-803.000
Deu: 210.000.................0............-210.000
--------------------------------------------------
Summary: ...............................-2.128.000
Converted by The OGame combat report convertor
Emandab1- Destroyer
Why Fleets Are NOT Defense :: Comments
Though it is nice to fleet save, its more complicated then i think, I was one of a TARGET of a recent attack from a person =P and I send them on a 3 hour expedition i know it only takes 5 hours but if i attack someone A: provokes hostility and a grudge B: possible loss of fleet, then agian having a fleet at your planet does make you a target and it makes people more likely to pillage your planet also >.< so how do we properly fleet save find a noob and rampage on him with our fleet because I dont think you can attack someone in noob status if you are not correct? so what to do can you possibly transfer your fleet to another planet maybe idk? send me a reply im really looking forward on grasping fleet saving to the max if i can because having my fleet there was a biggggg mistake>.<
The best way to fleet save is sending your ships on a deploy mission to another planet you own, especially since all your planets are in G1, due to the fact that a player with a moon can use a sensor phalanx on your planet and see when your fleet lands and hit you seconds after it does (here is a good example of it: ninja), but a sensor phalanx cannot see recalled deploy missions.
While most of the time you don't need to recall it, it gives you the ability to avoid being hit if someone attacks that planet..and ALWAYS be online before your fleet lands.
You should read this guide on it. fleet saving guide if you have anymore questions ask away.
While most of the time you don't need to recall it, it gives you the ability to avoid being hit if someone attacks that planet..and ALWAYS be online before your fleet lands.
You should read this guide on it. fleet saving guide if you have anymore questions ask away.
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